Crashed UFOs? Bold claims from a former intelligence official


"Flying saucer" against a blue sky.
Toy UFO in the air, via Lucas Pezeta on Pexels. A former intelligence official named David Grusch has entered the spotlight this week, by claiming that the U.S. government is illegally concealing information from Congress about crashed UFOs.

On the UFO front, things are taking a wild turn. As The Debrief first reported on June 5, 2023, a former government official named David Grusch is alleging that physical evidence of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, otherwise known as UAPs – actual crashed objects – are being illegally withheld from the U.S. Congress.

As of this writing (June 8, 2023) – over the past two days – numerous other media have picked up on the story, including The Guardian, Fox News, The Intelligencer, NewsNation, and others. And the word “aliens” is trending on Twitter.

Grusch gave an initial video interview to NewsNation on June 5. Additionally, there will reportedly be a longer interview airing this coming Sunday.

Yes, it’s a wild story. But let’s look at what we know so far.

Crashed UFOs?

UAPs – or UFOs – have been a hot topic of discussion and media coverage in the past few years. Most of new anecdotes about flying objects that cannot be identified have come from from military pilots. The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2022 required the Director of National Intelligence, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense, to submit an annual report to the U.S. Congress on UAPs. The Department of Defense also established an All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) to investigate unknown objects in the air, sea, and/or space and/or on land.

The American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics has gotten involved, as has NASA. And Harvard University astrophysicist Avi Loeb – whose 2021 book is called Extraterrestrial, and who has another book coming out this summer featuring his thoughts on UAPs – founded a research project centered on the subject, called the Galileo Project.

In other words, in recent years, U.S. Congresspeople, the military and a few scientists have been talking about UAPs.

Similar claims related to UFOs have been around for hundreds of years and, in the U.S. at least, have heated up since the Roswell incident of 1947, another supposed UFO crash.

Old newspaper front page, with headline RAAF Captures Flying Saucer.
Roswell, New Mexico, Daily Record from July 9, 1947, detailing what’s now called the Roswell UFO incident. If you visit Roswell today, you can visit a UFO Museum that still tells the tale. But, in 1994 and 1997, U.S. government reports concluded that the Roswell incident stemmed from a Project MOGUL balloon. Image via Wikimedia Commons.

Reported testimony on crashed UFOs by Grusch

About David Grusch. He is 36 years old. He’s a decorated former combat officer who served in Afghanistan. He has worked for the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) and the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO). In addition, he also worked with the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force (UAPTF) from 2019-2021. At that time, the Office of Naval Intelligence ran the UAPTF, which was a precursor to today’s larger AARO.

According to current reporting, Grusch has provided at least 11 hours of closed-door testimony and classified evidence, under oath, to both the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) and the U.S. Congress.

That testimony includes allegations that information about UFOs (UAPs) has been withheld from Congress for decades. Grusch also said he has also experienced illegal retaliation for speaking about it. Grusch claims that the U.S. government, allies and defense contractors have recovered both partial fragments and intact alien spacecraft over the years. He claims that analysis has shown these to be “exotic and of non-human origin.” But he doesn’t say “it’s aliens” specifically. As The Debrief reported:

‘We are not talking about prosaic origins or identities,’ Grusch said, referencing information he provided Congress and the current ICIG. ‘The material includes intact and partially intact vehicles.’

Grusch has supporters

Also, as The Debrief and The Guardian reported, Jonathan Grey apparently supports the claims being made by Grusch. Grey is a generational officer of the United States Intelligence Community with a Top-Secret Clearance who currently works for the National Air and Space Intelligence Center (NASIC). He was quotecd by The Debrief as saying:

The non-human intelligence phenomenon is real. We are not alone. Retrievals of this kind are not limited to the United States. This is a global phenomenon, and yet a global solution continues to elude us.

It perhaps should be noted that the website Media Bias/Fact Check gives The Debrief a pretty solid ranking, saying:

We also rate [The Debrief] as Mostly Factual rather than High due to not always backing claims with concrete evidence.

Also worthy of note, perhaps, is that a section of The Debrief is dedicated to coverage of UFOs.

Graphic with lists, pie chart and map, and the words UAP Reporting Trends at the top.
View larger. | UAP reporting trends from 1996-2023, according to the Department of Defense’s All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO). Its purpose is to investigate unknown objects in the air, sea, and/or space and/or on land. Image via U.S Department of Defense.

Is he credible?

Is David Grusch credible? Some are calling him a whistleblower. But he’s only a whistleblower if his story is real.

A few of Grusch’s colleagues, in aerospace and even the U.S. Space Force, have voiced their support for him on LinkedIn. Jim Shell, former Chief Scientist, Lt. Col. USAF, said:

I will vouch for the integrity of Dave Grusch! Getting to the bottom of this is elusive and problematic, to say the least. I will assert no matter the conclusion of extraterrestrial materials or not, the DoD and IC security apparatus is in trouble and unwitting accomplices are fostering an abusive system.

Jeff Nevin at Redwire Space replied:

Same here Jim, I worked with Dave for years.

Sean Allen at Space Systems Command, SSC/BC, U.S. Space Force, said:

Seems like it will be a busy week. I hope David Grusch stays safe.

Todd F. at Meraki Space Systems replied:

I’ve known for 30 years. We’re ready for disclosure. Let’s go!!!

As mentioned in The Debrief, Karl E. Nell also vouched for Grusch. Nell is a recently retired Army Colonel and current aerospace executive. Previously, he was the Army’s liaison for the UAP Task Force from 2021 to 2022. He worked with Grusch there, and said he is “beyond reproach.”

We note that the support is interesting. Of course, it doesn’t prove that what he is saying is accurate.

UFOs: A transparent sphere-shaped object with a dark cube inside it, between 2 fighter jets.
Artist’s illustration of a “cube inside a sphere,” reported by some Navy pilots. Illustration is based on an account from former Navy pilot Ryan Graves. Image via Andrew Pearce (used with permission).

A legal perspective

In addition, Jonathan Wolf at the website Above the Law wrote an overview of the developments from a legal perspective on June 8. He wrote, in part:

Grusch is no kook. He is a decorated veteran. Prior to leaving government work in April, Grusch had a celebrated 14-year career in U.S. intelligence. After he came forward, several of Grusch’s former colleagues backed him up.

For instance, retired Army Colonel Karl E. Nell, who served with Grusch on the UAP Task Force, called Grusch ‘beyond reproach’ and noted that his story ‘concerning the existence of a terrestrial arms race occurring sub rosa over the past 80 years focused on reverse engineering technologies of unknown origin is fundamentally correct, as is the indisputable realization that at least some of these technologies of unknown origin derive from nonhuman intelligence.

Details of what Grusch did

Grush left government work in April 2022. Through his attorney, Grusch filed a Disclosure of Urgent Concern(s); Complaint of Reprisal to ICIG in May 2022.

The Debrief said:

The Intelligence Community Inspector General found his complaint ‘credible and urgent’ in July 2022. According to Grusch, a summary was immediately submitted to the Director of National Intelligence, Avril Haines; the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence; and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Perhaps notably, since Grusch filed his complaint directly to the Intelligence Community Inspector General, he could face prosecution for perjury if he was to later be found guilty of lying.

Read more details and comments in this article.

Crashed UFOs: Panel of 16 people sitting at a table plus 1 person standing and speaking, with large slide displayed behind them.
View larger. | Screenshot from the NASA public meeting on what the miliary calls UAPs – Unidentified Aerial Phenomena – on May 31, 2023. Sean Kirkpatrick, director of the Department of Defense’s All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) is showing a slide about one of the unusual “metallic spheres” that AARO says has been seen by military personnel. Watch the 4-hour meeting here.Image via NASA/ Department of Defense/ YouTube.

Bottom line: Is there any truth to the decades-long claims of crashed UFOs? A former government official says there is, and has provided detailed classified testimony under oath.

You can watch Grusch’s initial interview here

Read the original article at The Debrief

Via The Guardian

Via NewsNation

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"Flying saucer" against a blue sky.
Toy UFO in the air, via Lucas Pezeta on Pexels. A former intelligence official named David Grusch has entered the spotlight this week, by claiming that the U.S. government is illegally concealing information from Congress about crashed UFOs.

On the UFO front, things are taking a wild turn. As The Debrief first reported on June 5, 2023, a former government official named David Grusch is alleging that physical evidence of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, otherwise known as UAPs – actual crashed objects – are being illegally withheld from the U.S. Congress.

As of this writing (June 8, 2023) – over the past two days – numerous other media have picked up on the story, including The Guardian, Fox News, The Intelligencer, NewsNation, and others. And the word “aliens” is trending on Twitter.

Grusch gave an initial video interview to NewsNation on June 5. Additionally, there will reportedly be a longer interview airing this coming Sunday.

Yes, it’s a wild story. But let’s look at what we know so far.

Crashed UFOs?

UAPs – or UFOs – have been a hot topic of discussion and media coverage in the past few years. Most of new anecdotes about flying objects that cannot be identified have come from from military pilots. The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2022 required the Director of National Intelligence, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense, to submit an annual report to the U.S. Congress on UAPs. The Department of Defense also established an All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) to investigate unknown objects in the air, sea, and/or space and/or on land.

The American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics has gotten involved, as has NASA. And Harvard University astrophysicist Avi Loeb – whose 2021 book is called Extraterrestrial, and who has another book coming out this summer featuring his thoughts on UAPs – founded a research project centered on the subject, called the Galileo Project.

In other words, in recent years, U.S. Congresspeople, the military and a few scientists have been talking about UAPs.

Similar claims related to UFOs have been around for hundreds of years and, in the U.S. at least, have heated up since the Roswell incident of 1947, another supposed UFO crash.

Old newspaper front page, with headline RAAF Captures Flying Saucer.
Roswell, New Mexico, Daily Record from July 9, 1947, detailing what’s now called the Roswell UFO incident. If you visit Roswell today, you can visit a UFO Museum that still tells the tale. But, in 1994 and 1997, U.S. government reports concluded that the Roswell incident stemmed from a Project MOGUL balloon. Image via Wikimedia Commons.

Reported testimony on crashed UFOs by Grusch

About David Grusch. He is 36 years old. He’s a decorated former combat officer who served in Afghanistan. He has worked for the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) and the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO). In addition, he also worked with the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force (UAPTF) from 2019-2021. At that time, the Office of Naval Intelligence ran the UAPTF, which was a precursor to today’s larger AARO.

According to current reporting, Grusch has provided at least 11 hours of closed-door testimony and classified evidence, under oath, to both the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) and the U.S. Congress.

That testimony includes allegations that information about UFOs (UAPs) has been withheld from Congress for decades. Grusch also said he has also experienced illegal retaliation for speaking about it. Grusch claims that the U.S. government, allies and defense contractors have recovered both partial fragments and intact alien spacecraft over the years. He claims that analysis has shown these to be “exotic and of non-human origin.” But he doesn’t say “it’s aliens” specifically. As The Debrief reported:

‘We are not talking about prosaic origins or identities,’ Grusch said, referencing information he provided Congress and the current ICIG. ‘The material includes intact and partially intact vehicles.’

Grusch has supporters

Also, as The Debrief and The Guardian reported, Jonathan Grey apparently supports the claims being made by Grusch. Grey is a generational officer of the United States Intelligence Community with a Top-Secret Clearance who currently works for the National Air and Space Intelligence Center (NASIC). He was quotecd by The Debrief as saying:

The non-human intelligence phenomenon is real. We are not alone. Retrievals of this kind are not limited to the United States. This is a global phenomenon, and yet a global solution continues to elude us.

It perhaps should be noted that the website Media Bias/Fact Check gives The Debrief a pretty solid ranking, saying:

We also rate [The Debrief] as Mostly Factual rather than High due to not always backing claims with concrete evidence.

Also worthy of note, perhaps, is that a section of The Debrief is dedicated to coverage of UFOs.

Graphic with lists, pie chart and map, and the words UAP Reporting Trends at the top.
View larger. | UAP reporting trends from 1996-2023, according to the Department of Defense’s All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO). Its purpose is to investigate unknown objects in the air, sea, and/or space and/or on land. Image via U.S Department of Defense.

Is he credible?

Is David Grusch credible? Some are calling him a whistleblower. But he’s only a whistleblower if his story is real.

A few of Grusch’s colleagues, in aerospace and even the U.S. Space Force, have voiced their support for him on LinkedIn. Jim Shell, former Chief Scientist, Lt. Col. USAF, said:

I will vouch for the integrity of Dave Grusch! Getting to the bottom of this is elusive and problematic, to say the least. I will assert no matter the conclusion of extraterrestrial materials or not, the DoD and IC security apparatus is in trouble and unwitting accomplices are fostering an abusive system.

Jeff Nevin at Redwire Space replied:

Same here Jim, I worked with Dave for years.

Sean Allen at Space Systems Command, SSC/BC, U.S. Space Force, said:

Seems like it will be a busy week. I hope David Grusch stays safe.

Todd F. at Meraki Space Systems replied:

I’ve known for 30 years. We’re ready for disclosure. Let’s go!!!

As mentioned in The Debrief, Karl E. Nell also vouched for Grusch. Nell is a recently retired Army Colonel and current aerospace executive. Previously, he was the Army’s liaison for the UAP Task Force from 2021 to 2022. He worked with Grusch there, and said he is “beyond reproach.”

We note that the support is interesting. Of course, it doesn’t prove that what he is saying is accurate.

UFOs: A transparent sphere-shaped object with a dark cube inside it, between 2 fighter jets.
Artist’s illustration of a “cube inside a sphere,” reported by some Navy pilots. Illustration is based on an account from former Navy pilot Ryan Graves. Image via Andrew Pearce (used with permission).

A legal perspective

In addition, Jonathan Wolf at the website Above the Law wrote an overview of the developments from a legal perspective on June 8. He wrote, in part:

Grusch is no kook. He is a decorated veteran. Prior to leaving government work in April, Grusch had a celebrated 14-year career in U.S. intelligence. After he came forward, several of Grusch’s former colleagues backed him up.

For instance, retired Army Colonel Karl E. Nell, who served with Grusch on the UAP Task Force, called Grusch ‘beyond reproach’ and noted that his story ‘concerning the existence of a terrestrial arms race occurring sub rosa over the past 80 years focused on reverse engineering technologies of unknown origin is fundamentally correct, as is the indisputable realization that at least some of these technologies of unknown origin derive from nonhuman intelligence.

Details of what Grusch did

Grush left government work in April 2022. Through his attorney, Grusch filed a Disclosure of Urgent Concern(s); Complaint of Reprisal to ICIG in May 2022.

The Debrief said:

The Intelligence Community Inspector General found his complaint ‘credible and urgent’ in July 2022. According to Grusch, a summary was immediately submitted to the Director of National Intelligence, Avril Haines; the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence; and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Perhaps notably, since Grusch filed his complaint directly to the Intelligence Community Inspector General, he could face prosecution for perjury if he was to later be found guilty of lying.

Read more details and comments in this article.

Crashed UFOs: Panel of 16 people sitting at a table plus 1 person standing and speaking, with large slide displayed behind them.
View larger. | Screenshot from the NASA public meeting on what the miliary calls UAPs – Unidentified Aerial Phenomena – on May 31, 2023. Sean Kirkpatrick, director of the Department of Defense’s All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) is showing a slide about one of the unusual “metallic spheres” that AARO says has been seen by military personnel. Watch the 4-hour meeting here.Image via NASA/ Department of Defense/ YouTube.

Bottom line: Is there any truth to the decades-long claims of crashed UFOs? A former government official says there is, and has provided detailed classified testimony under oath.

You can watch Grusch’s initial interview here

Read the original article at The Debrief

Via The Guardian

Via NewsNation

The post Crashed UFOs? Bold claims from a former intelligence official first appeared on EarthSky.



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