JC has been veering more and more to the dark side in recent years. Or maybe not so recent? I find that all the way back in 2010 I wrote Hopefully Curry isn’t going to fall off that cliff, but she is teetering. And I managed to be nice to her soon after. But in August of that year I felt obliged to announce her shark-jumping. And by 2013 it had only got worse to the point where I think I stopped reading her, and certainly made an effort to stop writing about her. She is suffering – uninterestingly – from having nowhere to go. Her scientific papers are of no interest but she is, by now, accustomed to a role in the “scientific debate”. With nothing to say on the “light side” she is inevitably left talking to the dark side. Somewhat like Richard Lindzen.
Anyway, the post that had Things Break reacting with “What. The. Fuck.” (and more amusingly, RP Sr reacting with @curryja Thanks! You have provided an excellent summary of Donald Trump’s views on environmental and climate issues. I learned from it) is Trumping the climate (aren’t you just sick of people inserting the word “Trump” into phrases? Still, not as stupid as a certain well-known presidential ex-hopeful who was dumb enough to use it in her own slogan good grief will some people never learn? But I digress).
Hoax
Disclaimer and/or FYI: I started writing this post after reading her first few paragraphs and being almost unable to believe the drivel she was writing. So I do hope I’m not going to have to change my mind after I read more. But I feel quietly confident I can “trust” JC in this.
So, just to to-and-fro this a bit, sourced from Politifact: Bernie Sanders says (as, I think, do many others): Donald Trump “thinks that climate change is a hoax, invented by the Chinese.” JC’s response is to go off on one of her ludicrous anti-UNFCC rants, yawn. A better answer is to read Trump’s words which she quotes: Well, I think the climate change is just a very, very expensive form of tax. A lot of people are making a lot of money… But this is done for the benefit of China, because China does not do anything to help climate change. They burn everything you could burn; they couldn’t care less. They have very — you know, their standards are nothing. But they — in the meantime, they can undercut us on price. So it’s very hard on our business. I don’t think Trump has the science, the economics, and the politics straight in his mind (he is, of course, far from unusual in this). He isn’t thinking through this stuff carefully. His “hoax” can be taken to apply to the science; but more plausibly it applies, not absolutely literally, to things like the Kyoto treaty as attempts to solve the problem. Or to many of the “subsidy regimes” created in the West (which I too have been critical of). I can’t defend his original The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive, because that is clearly stupid and unthinking. But then again, he wasn’t a pol then. He does appear to have learnt to back off from such unsustainable positions; which of itself is good. Politifact rates BS’s claim “mostly true” and I’d agree, but not without hope.
JC reflections
The stuff after that until “JC reflections” is just dull. But my eye was caught by In my post Trumping the elites [WILL YOU STOP F*CK*NG USING THE WORD “TRUMP” IN ALL YOUR BLOODY BLOG TITLES YOU HOPELESS IDIOT -ed], I stated that Trump’s election provided an opportunity for a more rational energy and climate policy. Many in the blog comments and the twitosphere found this to be an incomprehensible statement. I, by contrast, find it a comprehensible statement, so that’s great. What does she mean by it? Well apparently:
Here is what I think needs to be done, and I do see opportunities for these in a Trump administration:
* a review of climate science that includes a faithful and transparent representation of uncertainties in 21st century projections of global and regional climate change
* reopening of the ‘endangerment’ issue, as to whether warming is ‘dangerous’
* a do-over on assessing the social cost of carbon, that accounts for full uncertainty in the climate model simulations, the integrated assessment models and their inputs.
* support funding for Earth observing systems (satellite, surface, ocean) and research on natural climate variability.
Apart from the last one, which is sane in a dull and uncontroversial way (as long as you take care to pass over her pointed introduction of “natural climate variability” as though it was a concept she’d invented), the first three are mad hobby-horse riding kind of stuff (she must be hoping for a post from Trump, Shirley?). A rational energy policy would begin by removing all subsidies for biofuels, since that’s about the most insane part of the entire system. Will she advocate it? I doubt it. Will Trump: and piss off all those lovely midwest farmers? Ho ho ho.
Overall: doesn’t really live up the the outrage that her ridiculous “here is the dictionary definition of a hoax” stuff first stirred in me, but stands as a useful marker in her long slow slide off into the dark.
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JC has been veering more and more to the dark side in recent years. Or maybe not so recent? I find that all the way back in 2010 I wrote Hopefully Curry isn’t going to fall off that cliff, but she is teetering. And I managed to be nice to her soon after. But in August of that year I felt obliged to announce her shark-jumping. And by 2013 it had only got worse to the point where I think I stopped reading her, and certainly made an effort to stop writing about her. She is suffering – uninterestingly – from having nowhere to go. Her scientific papers are of no interest but she is, by now, accustomed to a role in the “scientific debate”. With nothing to say on the “light side” she is inevitably left talking to the dark side. Somewhat like Richard Lindzen.
Anyway, the post that had Things Break reacting with “What. The. Fuck.” (and more amusingly, RP Sr reacting with @curryja Thanks! You have provided an excellent summary of Donald Trump’s views on environmental and climate issues. I learned from it) is Trumping the climate (aren’t you just sick of people inserting the word “Trump” into phrases? Still, not as stupid as a certain well-known presidential ex-hopeful who was dumb enough to use it in her own slogan good grief will some people never learn? But I digress).
Hoax
Disclaimer and/or FYI: I started writing this post after reading her first few paragraphs and being almost unable to believe the drivel she was writing. So I do hope I’m not going to have to change my mind after I read more. But I feel quietly confident I can “trust” JC in this.
So, just to to-and-fro this a bit, sourced from Politifact: Bernie Sanders says (as, I think, do many others): Donald Trump “thinks that climate change is a hoax, invented by the Chinese.” JC’s response is to go off on one of her ludicrous anti-UNFCC rants, yawn. A better answer is to read Trump’s words which she quotes: Well, I think the climate change is just a very, very expensive form of tax. A lot of people are making a lot of money… But this is done for the benefit of China, because China does not do anything to help climate change. They burn everything you could burn; they couldn’t care less. They have very — you know, their standards are nothing. But they — in the meantime, they can undercut us on price. So it’s very hard on our business. I don’t think Trump has the science, the economics, and the politics straight in his mind (he is, of course, far from unusual in this). He isn’t thinking through this stuff carefully. His “hoax” can be taken to apply to the science; but more plausibly it applies, not absolutely literally, to things like the Kyoto treaty as attempts to solve the problem. Or to many of the “subsidy regimes” created in the West (which I too have been critical of). I can’t defend his original The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive, because that is clearly stupid and unthinking. But then again, he wasn’t a pol then. He does appear to have learnt to back off from such unsustainable positions; which of itself is good. Politifact rates BS’s claim “mostly true” and I’d agree, but not without hope.
JC reflections
The stuff after that until “JC reflections” is just dull. But my eye was caught by In my post Trumping the elites [WILL YOU STOP F*CK*NG USING THE WORD “TRUMP” IN ALL YOUR BLOODY BLOG TITLES YOU HOPELESS IDIOT -ed], I stated that Trump’s election provided an opportunity for a more rational energy and climate policy. Many in the blog comments and the twitosphere found this to be an incomprehensible statement. I, by contrast, find it a comprehensible statement, so that’s great. What does she mean by it? Well apparently:
Here is what I think needs to be done, and I do see opportunities for these in a Trump administration:
* a review of climate science that includes a faithful and transparent representation of uncertainties in 21st century projections of global and regional climate change
* reopening of the ‘endangerment’ issue, as to whether warming is ‘dangerous’
* a do-over on assessing the social cost of carbon, that accounts for full uncertainty in the climate model simulations, the integrated assessment models and their inputs.
* support funding for Earth observing systems (satellite, surface, ocean) and research on natural climate variability.
Apart from the last one, which is sane in a dull and uncontroversial way (as long as you take care to pass over her pointed introduction of “natural climate variability” as though it was a concept she’d invented), the first three are mad hobby-horse riding kind of stuff (she must be hoping for a post from Trump, Shirley?). A rational energy policy would begin by removing all subsidies for biofuels, since that’s about the most insane part of the entire system. Will she advocate it? I doubt it. Will Trump: and piss off all those lovely midwest farmers? Ho ho ho.
Overall: doesn’t really live up the the outrage that her ridiculous “here is the dictionary definition of a hoax” stuff first stirred in me, but stands as a useful marker in her long slow slide off into the dark.
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